The victims of Rotherham’s Pakistani/Muslim child rape gangs to sue?
You may have seen in a previous Blog article what the English Democrats have tried to do politically in South Yorkshire as a result of the Pakistani/Muslim child rape gang scandal. (Click here >>> http://robintilbrook.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/the-lessons-of-south-yorkshire-by.html
On reflection however I thought that, as a lawyer, there may well also be something more that I could do. Something which might even bring some much needed justice for the victims and against the guilty.
I therefore thought to put in a provocative advertisement proposal to South Yorkshire’s media!
You might think (but I couldn’t possibly comment!) that local journalists would be likely to have heard about what was going on. Yet the startling fact is that, with a very few honourable exceptions, there was extraordinary little reporting of these appalling crimes and the scandal of the authorities’ complicity.
In these circumstances I thought the exchange below might well be of interest as it does give an insight into the mind-set of a key local journalist; that is the Editor of the Rotherham Advertiser.
Below is the correspondence. See what you think.
From:RobinTilbrook
Sent: 08 January 2015 17:36
To: Advertising Department at Rotherham Advertiser
Subject: Re: Placement of Advert
Dear Sir
Re: Placement of Advert
I may wish to place an advertisement with your newspaper. Please could you let me know how much this would cost?
To all under age victims of South Yorkshire’s “Grooming” Gangs
If you were a victim of the so-called “grooming” gangs then you may well be in a position to sue, not only the gang members but also all their “clients” for damages for Rape. This could amount to tens of thousands of pounds.
You could also sue the Council for the gross negligence for having left you vulnerable to such exploitation.
Also if the police were involved and failed to act to help you, then you may be able to sue the police too.
You may also be able to claim compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Tilbrook’s Solicitors is a specialist civil litigation firm which could help you make such claims.
Contact Robin Tilbrook of Tilbrook’s on robintilbrook@aol.com or ring 01277 896000.
Yours faithfully
R C W Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s Solicitors
In a message dated 09/01/2015 14:34:51 GMT Standard Time,
rotherhamadvertiser writes:
Hi Robin,
Thank you for your enquiry regarding advertising in the Rotherham Advertiser. The text you have listed below would fit into a 7 x 2 box, or a 5 x 3 box, the cost of the 7 x 2 in the general run of paper would be £93.94 plus VAT, the 5 x 3 would be £100.65 plus VAT.
There are many other sizes available smaller and larger, however the 7 x 2 is the smallest that this amount of words would fit into and still have room to make the setting stand out. If you would like more information then please do not hesitate to give me a call.
Many thanks,
T.M.
From: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 09 January 2015 17:17
To: Rotherham Advertiser
Subject: Re: FW: Placement of Advert
Dear T
Thank you for your email. I am probably interested in placing this advert for £93.94 plus VAT. What more do you need from me?
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s Solicitors
From: rotherhamadvertiser
To: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 12/01/2015 09:15:40 GMT Standard Time
Subj: RE: FW: Placement of Advert
Hi Robin,
Because you have not used us before we do not have a credit account set up for you so I would need prepayment for the advert. I can email a proforma invoice and would need you to pay on a card or by bacs. Let me know how you would like to pay and I will email the invoice and details on how to pay. The deadline for this week’s paper is 3pm Wednesday.
Kindest regards, T.
From: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 12 January 2015
To: Rotherham Advertiser
Subject: Re: FW: Placement of Advert
Dear T
Thank you for your email. Yes if you could send me the invoice that would be fine. However before you do so please could you check with your Editor that the paper will run it as it is a bit controversial?
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s
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From: T.M.
Sent: 12 January 2015 13:19
To: A.M. Editor
Subject: FW: FW: Please check content is Ok for publishing
Hi A,
Can you check that we are OK to run this advert and let me know as I need to book and take payment.
Thanks, T
To all under age victims of South Yorkshire’s “Grooming” Gangs
If you were a victim of the so-called “grooming” gangs then you may well be in a position to sue, not only the gang members but also all their “clients” for damages for Rape. This could amount to tens of thousands of pounds.
You could also sue the Council for the gross negligence for having left you vulnerable to such exploitation.
Also if the police were involved and failed to act to help you, then you may be able to sue the police too.
You may also be able to claim compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Tilbrook’s Solicitors is a specialist civil litigation firm which could help you make such claims.
Contact Robin Tilbrook of Tilbrook’s on robintilbrook@aol.com or ring 01277 896000.
In a message dated 12/01/2015 13:39:31 GMT Standard Time,
rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk writes:
HI Robin,
Our editor has made some changes would the copy below be Ok with you? Let me know.
T.
From: A.M. Editor
Sent: 12 January 2015 13:38
To: T.M.
Subject: RE: FW: Please check content is Ok for publishing
Hi T,
Maybe something like the below?
A.
If you are a victim of child sexual abuse or exploitation you could be in a position to sue the perpetrators and the relevant authorities you believe let you down and failed to help you.
You may also be able to claim compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Tilbrook’s Solicitors is a specialist civil litigation firm which could help you make such claims.
Contact Robin Tilbrook of Tilbrook’s on robintilbrook@aol.com or ring 01277 896000.
From: robintilbrook
Sent: 12 January 2015
To: TM
Dear T
The revised advertisement is good, but the purpose of my advertisement is to reach those who are victims of South Yorkshire’s Muslim/Pakistani child rape gangs not other types of cases so I would prefer:-
To all under age victims of South Yorkshire’s “Grooming” Gangs
If you were a victim of the so-called “grooming” gangs then you could be in a position to sue, the gang members and all their “clients” for damages for Rape. This would amount to tens of thousands of pounds.
You could also sue the Council for the gross negligence for having left you vulnerable to such exploitation.
Also if the police were involved and failed to act to help you, then you may be able to sue the police too.
You may also be able to claim compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Tilbrook’s Solicitors is a specialist civil litigation firm which could help you make such claims.
Contact Robin Tilbrook of Tilbrook’s on robintilbrook@aol.com or ring 01277 896000.
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s Solicitors
In a message dated 13/01/2015 13:27:01 GMT Standard
Time, Rotherhamadvertisor writes:
HI Robin,
Please see below from my editor. Let me know if this is acceptable.
Many thanks, T
From: A.M. Editor
Sent: 13 January 2015 13:01
To: T.M>
Subject: RE: Grooming Gangs Advert
Hi T,
I’m uncomfortable about saying it would amount to tens of thousands of pounds as it might not. Equally, I don’t think we can name the council or the police. We are probably okay saying “grooming gangs” if that’s the bit he wants in to differentiate between those victims and the victims of abuse from, say, a family member.
Thanks,
A
If you were a victim of the so-called “grooming” gangs then you could be in a position to sue
the perpetrators and the relevant authorities you believe let you down and failed to help you.
You may also be able to claim compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Tilbrook’s Solicitors is a specialist civil litigation firm which could help you make such claims.
Contact Robin Tilbrook of Tilbrook’s on robintilbrook@aol.com or ring 01277 896000.
From: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 13 January 2015 18:54
To: rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk
Subject: Re: FW: Grooming Gangs Advert
Dear T
Thank you for your email. I am a bit puzzled by your Editor’s comment about the amount as this is to be stated in my advert and is not something that he is expected to verify.
I am a Civil Litigation specialist and can specifically confirm that I expect that every finding of Rape would probably attract an award in excess of £50,000. So for one of those girls whose plight was reported on in the Jay Report who has been raped hundreds of times the damages may well exceed £1million.
So far as mentioning the Council and the Police, this is also a basic litigation position. Of course we would sue them whereever sufficient grounds exist as they probably will for the Council in every case where the child was in Care. Where the police were involved and failed in their duty to act, the same applies.
So yes given the significant sums involved I do want the Council and the Police mentioned. I am happy to keep it generic but of course I actually mean Rotherham Council and South Yorkshire Police. I would add I shall also be carefully considering whether individual Councillors and Council officials are worth ‘powder and shot’!
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s Solicitors
From: rotherhamadvertiser
To: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 14/01/2015 09:31:43 GMT Standard Time
Subj: RE: FW: Grooming Gangs Advert
HI Robin,
I don’t think he meant that he would need to verify the amount it was more a case of mentioning large sums that may not be an achievable amount.
However if you are happy to go with the last version then the deadline is 3pm today to get into Friday’s Advertiser. Let me know.
Kind regards, T.
From: T.M. Rotherham Advertiser
Sent: 14 January 2015 10:22
To: A.M. Editor
Subject: FW: FW: FW: Please check content is Ok for publishing
Hi A
He wants to use this one is this OK?
Let me know. T.
To all under age victims of South Yorkshire’s “Grooming” Gangs
If you were a victim of the so-called “grooming” gangs then you could be in a position to sue, the gang members and all their “clients” for damages for Rape. This would amount to tens of thousands of pounds.
You could also sue the Council for the gross negligence for having left you vulnerable to such exploitation.
Also if the police were involved and failed to act to help you, then you may be able to sue the police too.
You may also be able to claim compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Tilbrook’s Solicitors is a specialist civil litigation firm which could help you make such claims.
Contact Robin Tilbrook of Tilbrook’s on robintilbrook@aol.com or ring 01277 896000.
From: rotherhamadvertiser
To: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 14/01/2015 10:59:06 GMT Standard Time
Subj: Please check content is Ok for publishing
Hi Robin,
I am sorry my editor is still unhappy with the phrasing, he has suggested the text below. As you can see from his email he is unhappy with naming the authorities and promising amounts that at this stage cannot be guaranteed.
Let me know what you think.
Kind regards
From: RobinTilbrook
Sent : 14 January 2015
To: Rotherhamadvertiser
Dear T
Thank you for your email. I am surprised by your Editor’s comments. We do not need there to have been any arrests for the victim to be able to sue. It is simply a legal fact that these types of cases will attract damages of tens of thousands of pounds. The relevant authorities are the Council and the police so why should I pussyfoot about?
It is very strange that your Editor has made his joke about my sentiments. This is one of the most appalling scandals ever and yet he is concerned about mere nuance!
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s Solicitors
From: A.M.
Sent: 14 January 2015 10:42
To: T.M.
Subject: RE: FW: FW: Please check content is Ok for publishing
Hi T.
He can’t say gang members as there haven’t been arrests, he can’t say tens of thousands of pounds and he needs to say relevant authorities rather than council or police.
The whole sentiment behind the advert and the way he’s phrasing things comes across as cheap and nasty.
I don’t think he can say much more than the below:
If you were a victim of the so-called “grooming” gangs then you could be in a position to sue the perpetrators and the relevant authorities you believe let you down and failed to help you.
You may also be able to claim compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.
Tilbrook’s Solicitors is a specialist civil litigation firm which could help you make such claims.
Contact Robin Tilbrook of Tilbrook’s on robintilbrook@aol.com or ring 01277 896000.
In a message dated 14/01/2015 15:08:31 GMT Standard Time,
rotherhamadvertiser writes:
Hi Robin,
Sorry to hassle you but we are on deadline now for this week’s paper so if you do want to go ahead I would need to know within the next half hour.
Kind regards,
T.
To: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 22/01/2015 15:35:56 GMT Standard Time
Subj: RE: Deadline
Hi Robin,
The editor is not happy for the authorities to be named, so you could put the relevant authorities but not Council or Police. The amount that they could get you said would be tens of thousands but you would have to put could be not would be as there are no guarantees. He is also not willing to print anything that points to any specific cultural group.
If you can word the advert around this then we would be happy to print it. Let me know if you do want to go ahead but I will have to run it by him again once the wording is submitted.
Kind regards,
T.
From: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 22 January 2015 15:14
To: rotherhamadvertiser
Subject: Re: Deadline
Dear T
I am still interested in placing an advertisement in the Rotherham Advertiser, but of course it does have to be wording that is useful and meaningful to me as an advertiser. Please could you confirm with your Editor what the position is?
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s Solicitors
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From: RobinTilbrook
Sent: 28 January 2015 09:22
To: T M
Subject: Re: Deadline
Dear T
Thank you for your email which I am surprised and puzzled at. Please remind your Editor that I have not asked to specifically identify Rotherham Council or the South Yorkshire Police – I have said the “Council” and the “Police”.
So far as ethnic/religious group is concerned, could you please remind your Editor that Professor Jay’s report was very clear that the perpetrators, with only one exception, were all Pakistani Muslims. The only exception was very much the “exception that proves the rule” as it was an Afghan Muslim of the same tribal group as most of the other perpetrators, i.e. Pathan/Pashtun. It would therefore in fact be wholly appropriate for my advert to be far more ethnic/religion specific than I have asked for.
So far as the money is concerned I actually anticipate, given the hundreds of rapes that many of these girls endured, that the money at stake may not merely amount to tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, but run into figures well above a million.
In the light of these comments I would request your Editor to reconsider his position on this advert.
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s Solicitors
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From: rotherhamadvertiser
To: RobinTilbrook
CC: J.R.@rotherhamadvertiser
Sent: 28/01/2015 11:48:51 GMT Standard Time
Subj: RE: Deadline
Hi Robin,
I passed your email to my editor who discussed it with our MD and they are still unwilling to run the advert with the details you mention. The fact that you are only targeting your advert at people suffering abuse at the hands of certain ethnic groups, all victims of abuse deserve compensation whomever was the cause. Also they have reservations about running it as there have still been no arrests made for these acts of abuse.
As a sales person I am sorry to turn down the revenue but my hands are tied.
Kind regards, T
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Sent to Rotherham Advertiser 28.1.15
From : Robin Tilbrook
Dear Tina
Your reply is amazing and concerning. My proposed advertisement actually does not identify any “ethnic groups”. This is despite, as I have said, the fact that it could properly do so, given the clarity and strength of the evidence in the Jay Report.
Your Editor’s reaction suggests that the Rotherham Advertiser may have been complicit in the cover-up of the activities of Muslim/Pakistani child rape gangs prostituting under-age girls in Rotherham by failing to properly and truthfully cover the extent of the criminality involved. How does your Editor answer to this serious charge?
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook
Tilbrook’s Solicitors
In a message dated 28/01/2015 16:43:48 GMT Standard Time,
rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk writes:
Hi Robin,
Again I have passed your comments to the Editor and forward any reply.
Kind regards, T
From: RobinTilbrook@aol.com
To: rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk
Sent: 28/01/2015 17:08:11 GMT Standard Time
Subj: Re: Deadline
Thank you T.
Robin
From: A.M.@rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk
To: RobinTilbrook@aol.com
Sent: 29/01/2015 16:16:24 GMT Standard Time
Subj: Are you really a solicitor?
Robin,
I would expect a solicitor to at least know that what you state below is an accusation (a pretty silly one at that) rather than a charge. A charge is made when police have enough information to make one (at least that’s the idea).
Your advert comes across as a crass and desperate attempt to profit from the misfortunes of others in a town hundreds of miles away from where you actually operate. Is local business so bad? Also, it gives what is likely to be false hope to most would-be claimants.
A
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From: RobinTilbrook@aol.com
To: A.M. @rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk
Sent: 30/01/2015 20:30:38 GMT Standard Time
Subj: Re: Are you really a solicitor?
Dear A
Thank you for your email. The words “charge” and accusation” mean very much the same thing.
I notice that your response has been the classic diversion strategem rather than answering the question. Use of this usually implies guilt. If I were cross examining you in court, I would probably leave it at that and invite the court to draw its own conclusions from your evasion when the question had been put to you.
Nevertheless I shall ask again are you one of those who is guilty of not reporting what you know and so helping the cover up? Viz: One that is part of the conspiracy of silence? Was this done for the politically correct appeasement of “community relations”?
Yours sincerely
Robin Tilbrook